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- From: Jason Kelk <tmr@cosine.demon.co.uk>
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- Subject: Re: C64 CDROM
- Date: Sun, 7 Jan 96 03:02:50 GMT
- Organization: Cosine Systems
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- That nice Doug Cotton said to Darren:
-
- : I have no doubt that there has been little in the way of new software
- : in your country in the last year,
-
- And Pontus pointed out:
-
- : This is not true! Walkers and Sword of Honour being two examples that
- : proves the above wrong!
-
- And Darren replied:
-
- : Well they were not released anywhere near me in the UK, but then again I
- : cant even find a store that sells any c64 games, let alone new ones. :)
-
- Well, the place I work for *does* sell C64 games. We have Sword of Honour,
- Lions of the Universe and Heavenbound instock and only sold out of Chicken
- and Walkerz in the last couple of weeks. We also have over 50 titles in
- stock and some of the Ocean carts. But in England today we are a rarity.
-
- Sadly the mail order software market in the UK is lousy. Most gamers are
- of the "I play Chronic the Smeghog" school of thought and as such are just
- too lazy to mail order games. Even when presented with games that scored
- over 90% in the mags they will not bother even if they are still with the
- C64! The prices are incredibly reasonable but its still to no avail...
-
- Iceman said:
-
- : If the software houses of the time had realized the concept of shareware
- : etc and offered free demo's, and used their common sence and didn't put
- : vorpal or rapidlock and some of the others that just slowed down load
- : time on the darn disks and simply refered to the manuals for keywords it
- : would have been so much more meaningful to purchase a program with nice
- : printed material for about 20 dollars and more for the better programs
-
- In the U.K. we did have cover mount demos on the magazines and because of a
- mainly tape based market our software normally wasn't as well protected and
- had a lower price tag but it made no real difference. Keyword protections
- were tried (as were some odder systems like Lenslok (tm)) but invariably
- they just narked off the users (ever misplaced a manual?) and the companies
- reverted to their original means.
-
- I agree though, for the American market your comments are right, I just
- wanted to point out that it was different over here and it still didn't
- help...
-
- As far as piracy killing the C64, this is something I really want to add
- a few pennies of thought to. The softies over here are now claiming that
- they are leaving the Amiga due to the piracy problem. (C='s financial
- flopping has since given them *another* excuse but lets ignore this for a
- moment!) And where do they all go?! To the P.C... Does this strike anyone
- else as being a bit "out of the frying pan and into the fire" or is it me?
-
- I'm not saying piracy is right. What I *do* say is that blaming it solely
- for the death of the C64 market is not the whole story. There are users,
- like most of those contributing to or reading this group who stick with their
- C64's due to either loyalty, nostalgia, as part of a job or a combination who
- look at those who left wonder why. I think Darren is right in that most
- companies and indeed users left due to the hype and glitz of the new systems.
-
- Piracy is illegal, its wrong and it damages trade. And thats the point, it
- only damages. Technology kills.
-
- Jason (who'll get off his soapbox now! =-)
-